
I recently had the chance to talk with John Brawley, who is an award-winning cinematographer. He tested the new Black Magic Design Camera during the development process, but he is not employed by them.
Hello John, thanks for your time! Could you tell us a little bit how you got your hands on the new camera?
John: I've known the BMD guys since they started. But they were post. And I was interested in their progress especially when they acquired Davinci. I was asking them to make a cheaper ArriRAW recorder for the Alexa. They invited me to a presentation and showed me a camera instead!!
They wanted to get my feedback on how the pictures looked and also on the interface. They didn't have any internal experience with production environments and wanted my feedback on the camera and its pictures. I guess I was "trusted" having known them for a long time. They wanted to surprise everyone. I had to put a special disguise on the camera when I went out in public with it.
Was that camera already similar to the final product?
John: The same in mechanics except they added the hd-SDI. Also the software hadn't been done
How was your inital experience with camera and is it still the same after working a while with it?
John: It was very impressive from the first time I used it. It's gotten better, literally week by week as they improved things. The main thing that just made me happy was to see so much DR and resolution from such a low cost camera. I've shot a fair bit with 5ds and the like. they have a great look, but they are inherently soft and lack DR. They are soft beside of their line skipping approach which also introduces other errors. This camera was sharp and with lots of resolution from the start. AND plenty of DR after that. The ergonomics were a challenge at first and I'm sure it won't be for everyone. But at its heart it's very simple and can be easily built up.
Many people complain that the chip is smaller than the S35 chip in most new cameras, which results in a big crop factor. What do you think about this?
John: Well S35 would have been nice but they tell me they are very expensive sensors. BMD were chasing the best they could for DR and low cost. This sensor was a good choice for this. The so called crop factor shouldn't really be an issue for for most unless you want ultra wide angle Or are chasing ultra low dof. You can still put very fast primes on an get most of the way there.
You already talked about the RAW image a bit. How did you experienced working with these files in terms of editing, storing and grading?
John: My jaw dropped when I mounted the first ssd drive from the camera. Each frame is a single file that opens in photoshop. I already had experience shooting RAW for stills and with RED and was aware of the advantages. I was working on a laptop and transcoding through resolve to FCP. I think people will need to think about their workflows. RAW is great but it demands a lot more in storage, and also hardware to make the most of it. If you choose to shoot RAW then you need to allow for that workflow. Which is why they introduced ProRes and DnX for those that need to shoot to edit. But even then, you can choose a 709 flavor or a log flavour
I really like the opportunity to choose the codec and log! Compared to RED cameras, what do you think of the Dynamic Range of the BMDCC?
John: You'll really struggle to "break" the image in the grade. It's a revelation. I could say really because they are still working on the sensor calibration and that affects noise which affects DR but id say it's getting close to an Alexa. I think even BMD were surprised at how much DR they are getting.
The camera seems only to have an internal battery. Was that a minus for you or is it generally recommended to use an external power source like with professional cameras?
John: Loom I would have preferred a replaceable battery. But that would have added a lot to the cost. The body is made from a single piece of aluminium. But I'm used to running cameras from an external battery. Alexa an RED work in this way. When you plug in an external battery it also recharges the internal battery. So you can think of this as a camera that has external batteries plus an emergency internal battery.
Do you think the BMD camera is a real competitor to the 5D or C300?
John: To be honest the only advantage I see for a 5dmk3 or a c300 is for very low light work. The c300 probably has better skew performance too. But it's a lot more expensive. You can get a Blackmagic for a fraction of the cost of a c300. You can then spend more money on lenses, or even other accessories.
Will you use one of those on your own projects as well?
John: I've already been using the camera in my own work. It's complimented the Alexa's I've been using on a TV series I'm doing now very nicely. And that's the way to think of this camera. It compliments cameras like RED and Alexa.
Whom do you recommend to buy one of these?
John: Anyone who's thinking of a 5dmk3 or and upgrade from a 5d/7d then you should really look at this camera. Awesome pictures and bang for your buck. Plus don't forget you get the best color correction software made on the market included ! That's pretty amazing value. Sure it's not a perfect camera but you can't deny it's appeal for the price.
The BMD will appeal to pros like myself, but probably more so to low budget filmmakers who are frustrated by compressed and soft line skipped dslr footage.
What do you think of the new camera in general?
John: I think it's amazing what BMD have done considering this is their first attempt at making a camera. This is only the beginning.
Thanks a lot for your time, John!
If you have any more questions about the camera, feel free to post them in the comments and we'll try to find an answer!

21 Comments so far - Please leave your opinion as well!
This camera looks very interesting and with Resolve and Ultrascope bundled in I went ahead and pre-ordered. I have to say though that as a Canon c300 owner the statement that the only thing the c300 gets you over this camera is low light ability is silly. Built-in ND’s, XLR audio, Waveform and Vectorscope, Double-slot CF card recording, Custom Scenes, multiple monitor positions,... I could go on but since the BMD camera isn’t here yet I’ll wait.
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Hi Eric. You also left off having a viewfinder. ND’s on the C300 are a plus for sure. The camera has balanced audio inputs so I’m not XLR’s are an advantage. They are planing Histogram and waveform monitoring in the cameras interface. It already has Zebra. The camera will do dual external RAW recording through it’s Thunderbolt if you need longer record times. I suppose not as convenient as having it in camera. I still think that that’s a lot of extra coin to spend on pretty small advantages. Are you happy spending 5 times the price ?
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“Are you happy spending 5 times the price ?”
He already owns the Canon c300 so its not a case of being happy spending 5 times the price!
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Then I guess the question could be “Are you happy you spent 5 times the price”?
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Erick to be fair look at the price difference…..look at the canon cameras at this price point, seriously i think there’s not much to say after that, BMD has really done what the other manufacturers, I believe will need to start doing instead of trying to regulate the progress of technology which exists and is possible what this really shows is for me the greed the big companies have (i know BMD have a lot of experience in manufacturing hardware) but! seriously first camera ever? and it’s like this with this price tag? come on! keep the c300 it is a great camera but please xlr? ND’s Double slot CF card recording i think those are hardly valid points considering the c300 is around 16000 USD? and the BMD is just under 3000USD. it’s like comparing a formula 1 car and an ariel atom both are great but the price is way different!
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BM CC looks very promising!
if the tube for the EF lenses would be replacable, i would be definately sold.
so i wonder, what is a practical wide angle solution with a 2,3x crop factor and a lens-sensor distance longer that EF?
some EF-S lenses, or the new EF Fisheye zoom, adapters?
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Widest EF optics I would get is Tokina 11-16mm, Very sharp and the distortion it has is in the corners on APS-C sensors so it should be very nice on the smaller sensor.
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What about the optics? I amy worry on the Black Magic Camera with such a smaller sensor…
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For reference, the BDCC Sensor is only a hair smaller than the Micro Four Thirds sensors.
BDCC = 16.64 mm x 14.04 mm (from their website)
M4/3 = 17.3 mm x 13mm (from Wikimedia sensor size chart)
APS-C (Canon) = 22.2 × 14.8 mm (source same as above)
Without splitting too many hairs over specs I’d have to say that for the price (and I can’t emphasize that enough) it’s really fabulous to have these kind of specs at that price. I think whatever the shortcomings of the camera this is huge for the indie filmmakers (of which I count myself a fledgling, I’m shooting a feature doc currently on a GH2) and can only be a huge RED-like stimulant for the competition. It’s pleasantly disruptive. I’m completely optimistic about this product and, even better, what it represents for the competition in this price range. Now, if I could just somehow adapt m4/3 lenses to this I’d be in hog heaven!
Sound: Can someone who actually does sound or has shooting experience comment on the difference between XLR and the 1/4” jacks. Is interference an issue?
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I am an audio professional. There is no difference between XLR and 1/4” TRS (balanced) jacks in terms of audio quality. The XLR is just industry-standard and a more robust connector.
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As Philip has said, if it’s TRS there is no electronic difference. The only thing that I have still not seen is if it does phantom. It also does not have TC in. Although these are not insignificant factors, they are very small when taking on board the main factor, price. For the type of work that this camera is aimed at. It is almost a cert that you would build it around some kind of shooting rig. Now taking that on board, ND’s, phanton, batteries, rigging, evf etc. It will still leave you with a load off change compared to a 300 or Scarlet body.
Dave.
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I think this camera is fantastic, i cant believe how we have grown to complain about almost everything that comes out BMD , I believe have truly created something that the other manufacturers e.g canon/red should have done a while ago remember the promise of the scarlet? I mean now we can choose to have the much cheaper than 5Dmk3, BMDCC with such great software to accompany it thats over 1500usd worth of software! Canon doesnt offer this, RED are doing exactly what the industry has done for eons with their REDMAGS etc… People this is a great product at a great price! in what i’ve seen there’s nothing in the price range that I (and a hoard of other indie film makers) wanna fork out for more than this. Sensor size? what, seriously? I’ve shot many projects with a 50mm lens and a 550D/7D (yeah i know, canon, dslr) with great results for what they are but with all their short comings and even on their big brothers im getting 2 of these instead of a 1D or 5D mk3 or scarlet because this camera is enough for most of us to get out there and shoot something viral!
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BTW thanks john for the comments and tests..
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@KC
The 1/4” jacks are balanced. This means that they have a tip, ring and sleeve that makes contact for the audio signal. These connections are used in high end audio recording hardware all over the world. The sound quality is equil to xlr jacks. There is no difference in signal.
The only negative that I can see is there is no lock on a trs balanced 1/4” audio cable. I actually don’t see that as a negative though.. if something were to catch on a cable, the cable would pull out before there was massive damage. Rather loose sound than a camera! Besides, if the jacks on the unit are of the quality that I expect, the cables will snap quite tightly in place.
The only other issue is the probable exclusion of phantom power. I’ve not seen phantom power ran thru 1/4” jacks. There is always battery powered mics ;).
Also… The high bit rate (24 bit most other cameras close to this price only record 16 bit) and 48k sample rate are on par with high end studio audio recording.
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You cannot have phantom power on a 1/4” TRS jack /plug because the contacts for signal +, signal -, and ground can touch each other when plugging / unplugging, causing the source circuit of the 48 VDC to short. Theoretically it would be fine if you could somehow ensure that nobody would ever hot-plug. Of course this is impossible and this is why you should not have 48 VDC “phantom power” transmitted through the 1/4” jack form factor.
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@K.C. agree with Dwight, there is no difference you can hear using TRS or XLR. One problem might be the missing lock - under hard conditions you might loose your sound.
The specs tell us: ” Analog Audio Input 2 x 1/4” jacks for professional balanced analog audio, switchable between mic and line levels.” So there is the possibility to get some balanced, high-quality signal but I think there is a lot of confusion around the web because of those TRS Connectors - there are four different versions of them:
There are mono versions (tip, ring, gnd) and - what the most of us use day per day - stereo jacks (left, ring, right, ring, gnd) and those jacks are unbalanced.
The third version of those jacks: balanced, mono jacks looking nearly the same as the stereo version (hot tip, ring, cold, ring, gnd) and those jacks can be plugged in the camera. The problem is that a lot of shooters just use some more-or-less-low-budget stereo-mics with built-in Stereo TRS Connector and those are NOT balanced. This means that there might be problems with interferences or something like that and your signal might be unusable. Those mics were built to give your cams with stereo-input a better signal as it is offered by the cam itself, but most of all not to record high-quality audio.
By the way: the fourth version of those connectors just adds an additional signal (left, ring, right, ring, aux, ring, gnd) and are - you got it - unbalanced.
Working with sound I really like this camera because of it’s connections and the headphone-plug. I think it’s a great advantage looking at the 5D or similar cams. Recording 24bit/48k is pretty good - of course there are better ways to record in higher sample rates and your sounddesigner will love you doing so, but the built in recording quality is good enough for most shots I think.
If you have the budget just buy an external recorder (I love Sounddevices, but also the H4n offers 96k and two XLR (balanced) connectors) and a splitbox. This tool duplicates/splits the signal and you can send the first version directly and balanced to the cam and the other one to your additional recorder. You’ve got pretty great sound on your cam and much better sound in your recording device - which makes it pretty easy to synch those two (using Pluraleyes or something like that) and your sounddesigner will love you.
Of course the advantage is that you don’t need to record on an external device, but there is the possibility, which feels great.
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I agree that the BMD Cinema Camera is terrific value for money, particularly given that you get Resolve with it. Brilliant. But somethings are worth assigning a value to which aren’t always apparent with specs alone. I make a living as a owner/operator shooter, peace of mind, reliability and adaptability carry some weighting with me. I own a C300 and to put it simply; it just works. The system has been designed with resiliency in mind which, when your rent/bills etc depend on your camera working flawlessly every time, is reassuring. I’m prepared to pay for this reassurance, tho it’s not included in any marketing material or spec sheets, yet it matters a great deal to me. I don’t believe you can singularly look at a price point versus specs when choosing what gear to buy, yes it’s a starting point but there is more to it. I do think the BMD will be popular though!
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most of the comment here are about tech specs for me the most important thing is the picture quality and what I get at the end. The first impression looks promising http://vimeo.com/40671729
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well this is a really great great camera, but at the moment for me the biggest issue is regarding the lenses and lens mount, I don
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If it could shoot at a higher frame rate it would be even better.
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My only real concern is the ability to do sync sound on the camera. Will the camera have the ability to link two or more cameras together for a 3D production or say to do double system with a separate audio recorder?
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